Document V3 model comparison
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controlled semantic interpretation, but no derivation stage, production
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controlled semantic interpretation, but no derivation stage, production
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integration or Progeo run was implemented here.
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integration or Progeo run was implemented here.
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## EXP-0030 — V3 model comparison: qwen3.5:9B vs qwen3.6:35B-A3B
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Date: 2026-08-19
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This controlled comparison reran the accepted V3 minimal semantic-preservation
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experiment unchanged with the locally installed `qwen3.6:35B-A3B`. It used the
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same implementation, A-I fixture, evidence, prompt, minimal schema, temperature
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0, `think=false`, `num_ctx=16384`, `num_predict=4096`, no retries, no voting and
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one call per case. The completed run made exactly nine calls in 96.392 seconds.
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Artifacts are preserved under
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`artifacts/experiments/evidence_observations_v3/20260819_v3_qwen36_35b_a3b_single_run/`.
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Structural validation passed 8/9 cases. D was semantically faithful but invalid
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because the model copied transcript speakers Antonius and Martin into
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`named_person`, although those names were not explicitly named within their
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utterances. Human semantic preservation produced 7 PASS, 1 PARTIAL and 1 FAIL:
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| Case | Verdict | Main result |
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| A | PASS | Preserved `can`, `perhaps`, tentative `would`, explicit `then` and no commitment, but changed the content language to English. |
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| B | PARTIAL | Preserved both approaches overall, but removed `Oder` from the 20-20 observation and locally strengthened it into collective planned conduct. |
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| C | PASS | Preserved Tim's tentative personal Textor contact and possible follow-up without established work. |
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| D | PASS | Preserved possibility, uncertainty, process and energy consequence; structural failure was confined to invalid speaker-as-named-person values. |
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| E | PASS | Preserved cost, collective rejection/non-pursuit and later determination, though the confirmation dropped explicit `Ja`. |
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| F | FAIL | Preserved quantity, timing and trial/series boundaries, but changed collective `wir` into “Martin suggests” and “Tim agrees,” inventing individual proposal/agreement meaning. |
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| G | PASS | Preserved hypothetical risk, collective recipient `wir`, Martin's personal stance, `wenn überhaupt`, conditional Technikum, impersonal `man müsste` and no decision/owner. |
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| H | PASS | Preserved request, addressee, Friday, explicit acceptance and future personal commitment without a responsibility field; content was English. |
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| I | PASS | Preserved local/pure-production and comparison boundaries, five-degree difference, upstream effort, publication purpose, unresolved permission and clarification without assignment. |
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Direct comparison:
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| Measure | `qwen3.5:9B` | `qwen3.6:35B-A3B` |
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| --- | ---: | ---: |
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| Structurally valid | 9/9 | 8/9 |
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| Human PASS | 8 | 7 |
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| Human PARTIAL | 1 | 1 |
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| Human FAIL | 0 | 1 |
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| Observations | 28 | 30 |
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| Runtime | 40.074 s | 96.392 s |
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| LLM calls | 9 | 9 |
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| Prompt-evaluation tokens | 6,268 | 6,268 |
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| Evaluation tokens | 2,590 | 2,718 |
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The larger model fixed the 9B weakness in G by preserving collective `wir`, and
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it split I's compound production/effort observations more cleanly. Those gains
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did not offset regressions: B was locally strengthened, F materially converted
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collective conduct into individual agreement, D violated the participant
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schema, observation count increased, and runtime was 2.4 times higher. Both
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models preserved German consistently in six of nine cases, but in different
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cases; the 35B-A3B model changed A, F and H to English, while 9B changed C, F
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and H wholly or partly to English.
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Result: **D — REGRESSION.** `qwen3.6:35B-A3B` does not materially improve the
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accepted minimal V3 first-stage preservation over `qwen3.5:9B`; it is worse on
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the A-I comparison because of the F ownership-adjacent strengthening and lower
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structural validity. This conclusion applies only to the minimal V3 first
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stage and does not determine model choice for any later semantic derivation.
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No production integration, derivation implementation or Progeo run occurred.
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## EXP-0026 — Topic-oriented Discussion Subject reconstruction V2 prototype
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## EXP-0026 — Topic-oriented Discussion Subject reconstruction V2 prototype
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Date: 2026-08-11
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Date: 2026-08-11
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